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Niume Has Stopped Paying

When Persona Paper had to discontinue offering payment due to falling advertising revenue, writers were forced to look into other avenues to try to eke out a bit of pay for their work. I developed my blogs a little bit, but that is a very solitary pursuit. I really enjoy the sense of community that can be found on a site that features other writers. I make and maintain friendships, and I also feel a LOT less like I'm shouting into the void than when I'm writing for my own blog.

Although I didn't close my Persona Paper account, I went to two other sites in search of revenue: MyLot and Niume. Niume is a site that is based in the UK, so there are a lot of British writers as well as writers from many other countries. There's no language barrier, as everything is written in English (there are some minor spelling differences, but American writers do not need to adhere to British spelling conventions--we all understand each other just fine).

Niume has a strong emphasis on images, and the site is beautiful, with large, colorful images. Unfortunately, beauty doesn't pay the bills, and Niume, as well, found that advertising revenue wasn't sufficient to pay their writers. Like Persona Paper, they were very honorable, letting us know exactly what the deal was, giving us easy access to our body of work, and paying everyone who was owed money (provided they had met the minimum payout--I had not). They didn't pack up and disappear in the middle of the night like those cretins at Bubblews and at some other sites.

Niume is now in a bit of a holding pattern, like Persona Paper. They remain open, attempting to simply meet operating expenses, and hope to be able to monetize at some point again, in order to pay writers. I am hopeful that they will, and that Persona Paper will. MyLot did manage to do it again, after a period of not being able to, so it's apparently not impossible. In the meantime, both Persona Paper and Niume offer their writers a platform to publish, get exposure, and to promote their other endeavors (Niume is fine with backlinks to one's blog or other articles).

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MegL wrote on June 3, 2017, 4:48 AM

It's a difficult job getting enough credible traffic to a site to be able to attract advertisers. I am glad they let people know ahead of time instead of just upping sticks and running for the hills!

lookatdesktop wrote on June 4, 2017, 8:32 AM

I am happy here.

lookatdesktop wrote on June 4, 2017, 8:35 AM

I am glad that you are keeping this one going. In all honesty I figured that eventually other writers would make a come back and I do expect more growth over time. Imagine quality writers who care. What a funtastic concept. But me, I can't spell fantastic. I just did. Oops! Yea. I deliberately misspell that word because it is unique and it identifies my posts as original so if anyone tries to copy my stuff they will have to delete that word and in so doing will be admitting to plagiarizing me. LOL.

melody23 wrote on June 4, 2017, 10:25 AM

First off let me say I'm a big fan of Niume and have advocated for them loads of times but its clear to me what the problems are there. No one credits images, they have no checks in place for plagiarism, articles that are total nonsense are often left on the site for ages before someone eventually takes them down. That sort of thing really hurts ad revenue and page rank, and these things have been brought to their attention on several occasions by numerous people. I hope they are able to clean things up a bit and continue on because its a fantastic platform and I am very interested to see where they go with it from here.

AliCanary wrote on June 6, 2017, 5:49 PM

True, they really need to be better about policing things. I actually pointed out to one of the admins that their TOS didn't clearly prohibit plagiarism, and they changed it. Images are definitely a problem, and people are just using whatever they want willy nilly. I have seen spun content and content that was just flat-out advertising and reported those things (fortunately, they make that very easy to do). I don't blame them for not being on top of everything, though, because as we've learned here, a website can be run by just one or two people, so there might not be more than just a couple of folks over there, too. I'm hoping they will prevail, as well--they seem like very nice people. They would do well to put some of the safeguards in place that were instituted here.

AliCanary wrote on June 6, 2017, 5:50 PM

Yes, they were cool about it, and it made me confident enough to leave my account up, just as I did here.

melody23 wrote on June 7, 2017, 4:33 AM

It just never seemed to improve even a little though that was the thing. If they were short staffed, they could have appointed moderators or similar. I worked my butt off for Helium for years as a 'channel steward' 'channel manager' and all sorts of varying titles they had for what was essentially a moderator then later an editor and never earned a dime for it because I loved the site and genuinely wanted to help, there is no reason Niume couldn't have done something similar

AliCanary wrote on June 8, 2017, 1:43 PM

I remember there were quite a few people who volunteered to do that here, as well, since Heather and Will were so busy in their personal life. Not quite sure why that never materialized--maybe the writing was already on the wall as far as revenue issues, so they didn't bother.

melody23 wrote on June 8, 2017, 1:51 PM

Yeah I offered here too and would have offered at Niume had they asked. I gained a tonne of experience at helium that could be put to good use elsewhere

AdGoggleKo wrote on July 5, 2017, 7:16 AM

I joined but did not continue with because I cannot publish a post from mobile. An iPhone is my one and only tool so I stick with mobile friendly sites ;)

VinceSummers wrote on August 4, 2017, 8:08 AM

A conceivable goal for some rich people would be to get underlings to do their bidding for just enough to exist. If they suspect such ones are getting more, they could nibble at that until they meet their optimum. If anyone should think there are no such rich people in the world, better think again. Could it be imagined such ones could control the purse strings, even if they are not the outright owners, but, say, those who control the monies of the advertisers? Do you get what I'm suggesting? Frankly, I am unconvinced that is not happening.

AliCanary wrote on August 5, 2017, 6:18 PM

Oh goodness, I would have a hard time making an entire post from my phone. You have skills!