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Rant alert!

So the Scottish government has voted to hold another referendum, only they have already been told that they will not be allowed to do so at this time. What a waste of my tax money (maybe I should ask for a refund?) I am so fed up with all this independence stuff, did we not answer this question just three years ago? When we had that 'once in a lifetime' vote on the very subject? God that was a short lifetime if we are wanting to have another vote right now!

The reason for this nonsense? Well the UK is leaving the EU and Nicola Sturgeon doesn't want that, to be fair neither to a whole lot of Scottish people but to say the goalposts have been moved is just ridiculous. The EU referendum was on the table long before the Scottish one was in fact David Cameron used it in his 2013 manifesto and it was on the table for years before that. Anyone that voted against Scottish independence last time without realising that a vote was going to be held on UK membership of the EU at some point soon probably shouldn't be allowed to vote in the first place!

So instead of listening to the democratic will of the people, does Nicola Sturgeon simply plan on asking the same question over and over again until she gets the answer she wants? That's undemocratic at best. Should Scotland become independent and somehow weasel its way back into the EU do I then get to kick up a fuss and demand another vote because I wanted to remain in the UK and out of the EU?

How does leaving the UK but staying in the EU even make Scotland independent in the first place? The EU has far more control over us than the rest of the UK does - they overturn our laws, they set our prisoners free, they take products off our shelves because they contain ingredients they don't like, they set our working hours you name it the EU does it. The EU has decimated Scottish industries like agriculture and fishing but yet we want to stay in it? Why on earth would we want to do that? The only answer is because people are not informed enough to realise all these things.

It has also been made very clear that we will not be allowed an easy ride into the EU, we will have to apply just like any other country and go to the back of the queue so to speak. Sure our ride will be easier because our laws already please the EU but we will not be excused from the regular requirements - including joining the Euro single currency which is something that we were all opposed to the last time that debate came up!

More to the point: why the hell would we want into something that everyone else is desperate to get out of? Several countries have stated that they wish to follow the UK out of the EU, they are just doing the smart thing and standing back to see what sort of deal we get.

There are also several countries that have said they would veto Scotland's application to join the EU which could mean we wouldn't be allowed to even start the process anyway.

Oh forget it I am moving down south before its too late!

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MegL wrote on March 29, 2017, 1:15 PM

There are big arguments on both sides and I don't see either side convincing the opposite view.

melody23 wrote on March 29, 2017, 4:23 PM

Absolutely but the point is that the 'once in a lifetime vote' was only three years ago - it shouldn't even be an issue again right now. I also kinda think that if I was Nicola Sturgeon, I would be sitting back and waiting to see how things panned out before calling for another referendum, if coming out of the EU does in fact turn out to be a terrible idea then she would have the ability to turn round and say that this was not what the Scottish people wanted in the first place and demand a vote at that point. right now she is just shouting her mouth off about something she cannot have, the UK government is not going to allow another independence referendum while the article 50 process is underway so basically what she is doing is totally pointless as well as completely undemocratic.

Colibry21 wrote on March 30, 2017, 7:08 AM

My best friend is Scottish, so my husband and I are able to hear some things from her, on top of what's already in the news. We hear her opinion as well and such. I can understand both sides. But the last referendum wasn't all that long ago. For me, it doesn't make sense to have another one so soon. But that's just my opinion.

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melody23 wrote on March 30, 2017, 1:07 PM

It really doesn't make sense does it? I can understand both sides too, although I guess not to the same extent since its hard to be impartial when your future rides on these things as mine does, but it just seems really silly to me to hold another vote before we know the outcome of brexit

Colibry21 wrote on March 31, 2017, 11:58 AM

Yeah, I guess it's easier for me, since it doesn't really affect me. But I still don't understand why have a referendum so soon. Hopefully you don't have to go through another one again so soon.

Kasman wrote on April 11, 2017, 3:17 PM

Brexit has nothing to do with it! The thing is the SNP's sole reason for existence is to gain independence for Scotland. They simply can't not talk about it. To forego their aim of independence for Scotland is to deny the very reason for their existence! I'm afraid that as long as the SNP exists (in power or out of power) they will keep rabbiting on about it and their latest 'reason' - Brexit - is just another excuse to keep the subject at the forefront of their politics and if it wasn't Brexit then something else would be used as the excuse to demand another referendum. They should concentrate on running the country and leave the question of independence alone for now - oh, wait, they can't not talk about it . . .

melody23 wrote on April 11, 2017, 4:31 PM

Totally agree. They have done literally nothing else for the last 12 months, they haven't passed a single act of parliament or literally spoken about anything that doesn't involve independence. The only good thing about independence is that the SNP would then disband and join the other parties or start some other argument they cant win. I actually want a tax refund for this rubbish! Oh guess what has just opened up in the former bank at the bottom of my building? You've guessed it - the local MSPs constituency office! Guess which party he belongs to? the SNP of course! even seeing his car parked in the street every morning makes me sick, its still covered in all the 'yes' stickers and the 'nhsyes' rubbish. I wasn't against having the vote the first time round, but I am sure as hell against having another one so soon just because those in power didn't like the result - I mean when would this end? A different party comes in and wants a different thing so they then hold another vote and so on and so on? it simply cant happen