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Bubblews and the Sweeble App


There has been much speculation about what will become of Bubblews and the new Sweeble application since the announcement at the first of the year, which knocked many of the community for a loop. Many of the writers who were expecting a payment found out that their pending payments had been wholly deleted. Others found that they might receive pennies on the dollars. Earnings to reach the $50 minimum payout level are at a standstill.

In February, we heard about a conflict between Bubblews' Arvind Dixit and Sue Greenwood who owned a UK company and website under the Sweeble name. Nothing has been reported since mid-February by Greenwood.

The SweebleApp.com website has seemed to change recently. It still claims to be "Coming Spring 2015 for iOS and Android" and how has a new look to it with an undulating jellyfish on the site.

I also have looked at its Twitter page (https://twitter.com/sweebleapp), which seems to have been very active in April. Some have shared links to what they are testing, so it seems that Avi, and Bear (MeestahBarnes at Twitter) have been busy with this new app. (It is also being promoted by a Sara_Zuccari at Twitter.)

These are the things I could find where there is a blogpost, a video, and evidence of the new app being tested, for those interested:

  • http://blog.sweebleapp.com/post/114139806943/time
  • http://www.sweebleapp.com/v/xrOPwhuddH
  • https://twitter.com/search?q=feedthesweeb&src =typd
  • http://www.sweebleapp.com/v/LrhNrby4ga
  • https://instagram.com/p/1sw929Cg2W/
  • https://instagram.com/p/1W_wg2xOPd/

The evidence I see is catering to the younger crowd, who are less likely to care about community and relationship-building, as did the more mature crowd at Bubblews. The hashtag used is "#FeedTheSweeb" if you are likely to follow that on Twitter and Instagram.

So, while Bear states that "We are still here. Watching, reading and listening" when it comes to Bubblews, they are quiet there for the last two months. But there are things happening on the Sweebleapp front, but they certainly are not sharing that openly with the Bubblews diehards.

Perhaps, that is how they are feeding (funding) the Sweeb.

© Coral Levang, 2015

| | #FeedTheSweeb |


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Comments

luisga814 wrote on May 10, 2015, 1:21 AM

Claiming the payment in that site is totally a hoax. I do have two failed redemptions then.

Bensen32 wrote on May 10, 2015, 3:24 AM

I think that site died more than 6 months ago. Hardly anyone is active there anymore. I would not doubt that with in the next 6 months the site will be closed, unless they do something drastic to change it.

Hollyhocks100 wrote on May 10, 2015, 3:56 AM

Hi Coral.
I donĀ“t have a smart phone so have never used an App for anything, but if what you say at the bottom of your post is Gen, then that would be the final slap in the face for those bubblers who stayed. Nothing would surprise me over there.

iwrite28 wrote on May 10, 2015, 4:33 AM

Bubblews stopped paying a long time back.

morilla wrote on May 10, 2015, 5:34 AM

This was one of the 'concerns' expressed when the app was first announced. While I don't know and wouldn't be a member of the target market for the new app, the initial announcement (1/29/15) from the CEO stated that they would continue "to innovate Bubblews and new products," that the app would "not interfere with your experience...at Bubblews," and that Bubblews was "still a major priority" for him. However, one could legitimately point out that those statements were before the 'F' rating with the BBB, etc., so forth, and such like. I wouldn't write off Bubblews just yet. However, I'm not sure the efforts/resources are being put into it to 'come back' from the 'bad decisions' which were made.

That's why SOME communication would be... useful. I will note that he never responded to your question on that post as to whether Bubblews was a 'writing site' or a 'social media' site. Which kinda leaves us with what you've done; i.e., trying to 'piece together' something from rather scant evidence. My guess would be that they are 'caught up in the excitement' of a new direction and, particularly given the 'bad blood' on Bubblews when there are 'official (mostly meandering/off-topic) posts,' I can also understand the lack of enthusiasm for interacting with the membership. Unfortunately, it's just making a 'bad' situation worse. (There may be a thought process that if they let things 'cool down' and allow the membership to 'turn over,' that there will be a more 'opportune' time to 'participate' again as well.)

jiangliu1949 wrote on May 10, 2015, 5:42 AM

Bubblews seems to be at the end of its rope and its days are numbered .The end of it won't be better than Mylot which I now still drop by . " : - ) "

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alexdg1 wrote on May 10, 2015, 7:54 AM

Mylot. I had forgotten about that one. I think I was active there for a few months when it was new, then got bored and became inactive. It closed?

wolfgirl569 wrote on May 10, 2015, 10:45 AM

I look for them to just close bubble land if they ever get the new app released. I think bubblews is where they are getting the money for it and the people left will be screwed again

LeaPea2417 wrote on May 10, 2015, 10:45 AM

I do not have a smartphone. Not everyone does, that sweeble app is meant for a few not many.

WordChazer wrote on May 10, 2015, 12:11 PM

I do wonder whether my patience will last long enough to make the next payout. I have so much else going on at the moment I can't spend time everywhere and I tend to prioritise those sites where I need to be first.

FourWalls wrote on May 10, 2015, 12:12 PM

You're so right about "some" communication. The only thing Avi had to say for the week leading up to the silence was "Hey, I'm releasing a free e-book, buy it!" Since then (that was mid-March), NOTHING. At this point a "hey, screw you, we're making like Steve Miller, taking the money and running!" (which is what I strongly suspect they ARE going to do) would be appreciated.

CoralLevang wrote on May 10, 2015, 12:35 PM

Though I am nearly 60, I do have a smartphone, and I know many oldsters who do. However, we do not use it in the same way that the younger generation uses it. I think that the Sweebleapp is intended to exclude those in a certain age demographic, though this same demographic was instrumental in the initial success of Bubblews.

CoralLevang wrote on May 10, 2015, 12:41 PM

Based on comments that I have seen over the last year at Bubblews from its staff, primarily Bear, I do believe it is generational. I do not think this is exclusive to that site though. I see similar disregard in other situations. Perhaps, it is not a new phenomenon, as with any aging generation. But I do see that a level of respect for others outside one's own group has certainly declined over the years.

inertia4 wrote on May 10, 2015, 8:51 PM

CoralLevang Wow. I knew they were busy with Sweeble. But they do seem to be neglecting Bubblews. It makes you wonder of they are going to create this sewable, whatever it is going to be and do away with Bubblews. They really should be communicating with the members on Bubblews about both, Bubblews and Sweeble. After all, us members should be the first inline for Sweeble and get in right away whenever, if ever it launches. And we should be in the know.

CoralLevang wrote on May 10, 2015, 8:57 PM

inertia4 I agree with you. I suppose that Bear suggested (by his comment) that they are "watching, reading and listening" should be enough to convince some that Bubblews is still viable. I cannot honestly say that I believe anything. I think it is symbolism over substance and designed to give a false sense of hope to the diehard crowd. I hope that I am wrong, but I've seen this type of thing before in "regular" businesses, before online became all the rage.

peachpurple wrote on May 11, 2015, 3:29 AM

ah... good thing that i had stopped bubble there, i am happy with PP now

jiangliu1949 wrote on May 11, 2015, 3:35 AM

It hasn't been shut down ,however it isn't an earning site now and has few visitors .

SoundNFury wrote on May 11, 2015, 5:54 AM

I just don't know how that team is going to escape the stink of what they pulled a few months back. It is the internet, and word travels extremely fast.

inertia4 wrote on May 11, 2015, 7:18 AM

CoralLevang It is very disheartening to not hear form them about Bubblews. Or even Sweeble for that matter. Aren't we members supposed to be in the fold? Like here, they keep us up to date with that is going on. To me that is the way it is supposed to be. I do hope the site sticks around, I do like it there. There is something about the site. But, on the flip side, if it disappears, I always have Persona Paper.

alexdg1 wrote on May 11, 2015, 8:44 AM

They might as well close it down, then. If it doesn't have a lot of traffic and doesn't pay, it's just taking up bandwidth.

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alexdg1 wrote on May 11, 2015, 8:51 AM

Yes. I have noticed that, too. It should not surprise me, but the "tone deafness" I see in Arvind and other Bubblews "staff" reflects a cavalier disrespect for others. They may not realize it, but they come across as arrogant, shallow, and uncaring.

agvulpes wrote on May 11, 2015, 9:06 AM

Being in the 'older' demographics as the saying goes 'I'm Out' and have no desire to be part of Sweebles ? As for the "B" site , it surprises me that there are still so many loyal members on the site ? Wishful thinking maybe ?

CoralLevang wrote on May 11, 2015, 11:10 AM

I have actually read comments from Bear that have said that if (older) do not want to learn new technology, "then leave." It was a conversation between him and one of the younger writers. They were both mocking one particular older person whose writing was quite prolific there.
At first, I thought it was just them, but I have encountered similar things from folks in my classes. Now, in all fairness, that is not to say that all 20-somethings are alike, but I am seeing a trend. Perhaps, that trend is part of the normal maturation process of those who are coming up in the world and have visions of being in charge someday. I'm sure that we were full of ourselves 30-to-40 years ago, too. But one thing that I know for SURE is that, if I would have ever said some of the things I've heard and read in the last five years, I would have been backhanded.

CoralLevang wrote on May 11, 2015, 11:21 AM

I suspect that they don't like me much. I don't think they know what to do with me. I try to make sure that I am never just mouthing off to or about them, though I certainly am capable of it. emoticon :winking: I do not want to get banned, not because I fear it, but because I want to be in the know (nosey)! So, whatever I write there may certainly be pointed, and downright snarky, I want them to engage me. They will not, so I think that there is some fear (?) there for doing so? One claims to be a master communicator with his degree in Communication, but cannot communicate his way out of a paper bag, unless it reeks in narcissism.

I suppose that this post may come across as equally as arrogant, and for that I apologize. It is usually a quality that we have that bothers us so much in others. I do hope, however, that maturity has tempered that quality in the past four decades, so that I can be more effective in my dealings with people, even though I don't back down when it's time for me to advocate.

CoralLevang wrote on May 11, 2015, 11:26 AM

I suspect that you are right, and I watch their patterns. I, too, have felt that they are much like the Pied Piper of Hamelin, seducing the trusting and taking them down the path to their own deaths (figurative).

CoralLevang wrote on May 11, 2015, 11:27 AM

I have never heard of MyLot. I suppose I should be glad that I hadn't. LOL

CoralLevang wrote on May 11, 2015, 11:30 AM

I tend to agree with you, though I think they may keep it open as long as there are the diehards to write there, which I see some returning. In fact, many who have been here and been frustrated by the lack of responses from other writers have gone back there, if only for the interaction. I do not know if the advertising revenue is any good for the powers-that-be, but if they can squeeze blood out of a couple of Lincolns (pennies) for their own gain, I think that they will, without any benefit to the current subscribers.

CoralLevang wrote on May 11, 2015, 11:33 AM

For your sake, I hope you are paid. I am lucky that I was paid each time, though rather late, but I did not back down, nor did I get belligerent with them. Whatever pennies are accumulating there now (I'm at $4.33) will never be seen, which is what I think they have planned all along. Those who are getting close to the payout now, I believe will have the same results. I hope I am wrong.

CoralLevang wrote on May 11, 2015, 11:41 AM

I agree. The disheartening part of it all is that it was built on "writing your world" and the openness of people around the world getting to know one another and able to do it freely, even countries where that is not possible. Ideally, it was a great place. But the world around us thinks differently. We aren't all coming from the same mindset, and that is where I think the vision was not prepared. There IS "something about the site," which is why I defended it for so long when I first saw some of their issues. It is when they (particularly, Avi) lied directly to me one-on-one, and then when Bear decided to sic himself on all who might question, that I stopped my defense. Bear is nothing more than the schoolyard bully, in my opinion. You stand up to him and he finds someone else to pick on. I still haven't figured Avi out yet. I think he just wants the world to love him.

CoralLevang wrote on May 11, 2015, 11:43 AM

I think that PP is a great place to be for its leadership and community. I just wish we could get more people here. It has seemed to be a struggle to get them and keep them.

CoralLevang wrote on May 11, 2015, 11:48 AM

I think they will escape that stench because they will blame any "word" on the generation who is willing to spread it. It won't be there own, I'm afraid.

CoralLevang wrote on May 11, 2015, 11:50 AM

I, too, am out. And I own an Android. I simply want nothing to do with Sweeble because of the "B" site. As far as the loyalists, I think they stay mostly for the friendships built. It's difficult to walk away. I think there is some sort of hope that things will change and that the management there will come to their senses and do right by everyone.

CoralLevang wrote on May 11, 2015, 11:51 AM

For your sake and and sake of those who have pending payments, I hope they eventually make good, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

CoralLevang wrote on May 11, 2015, 11:53 AM

I agree. I just wish we were able to get as much activity here as the have there. I'm tired of seeing people here that are leaving to go back primarily to them.

CoralLevang wrote on May 11, 2015, 11:54 AM

Yes, they did. Some of us were able to get all payments, but I think it was those they believed would not back down, not from a "noise" perspective, but from a legal one.

WordChazer wrote on May 11, 2015, 1:06 PM

I'm further on than you, but I also wonder. I think my time and words would be better spent elsewhere.

Bensen32 wrote on May 11, 2015, 1:34 PM

I kind of agree with you, real active people yes would be great to have them here. All the spam and cheating the system they had there when it was really busy there I could do without.

morilla wrote on May 12, 2015, 12:33 AM

There were a couple of responses posted to pieces of mine a month or so back. However, they were decidedly defensive and/or revisionist. While there is almost certainly a certain 'caste' or 'group' or whatever you want to call it system over there based on age and a perceived 'loyalty' to the site verging on rewarding sycophants, much of it, I suspect, stems from a lack of confidence and lack of experience (neither being, of necessity, related to 'age.') Some of that stems from observing disagreements between the CEO and other Staff members over policies and the interpretation thereof. Some of it comes from watching them continuously attempt to 'revise' any negative commentary based on 'poor' or 'confusing' decisions articulated previously.

When you are as young as most of them are, you tend to think you are not only immortal, but that you can do no wrong. In a way, there's nothing wrong with that, provided you are willing to listen to those who've been there, done that already. If you perceive such 'experience' as a threat or 'fear of the new,' you forget that you aren't immortal and you're aren't perfect; not to mention failing to learn from previous experience, which is how the species survives.

It's something I see in other places as well. It's not so much an 'immaturity' as it is cloistered thinking which is disconnected from the 'real world.' Those you do your 'power lunches' with, those you work with, those who you are basically surrounded by on a daily basis all "do it" (be it mobile devices, the new technologies, the management style, perceptions, whatever), thus THAT is the reality 'everyone' lives with. Well, maybe 'everyone' you see regularly, but not necessarily 'EVERYONE.' Combine all of the above elements (age, cloistered thinking, caste system, etc.) and you are bound to make 'bad' decisions.

BarbRad wrote on May 12, 2015, 3:09 AM

I've not been keeping up with Bubblews except to occasionally read a friend's post I see in social media links. They still owe me 19.00 I'll never see, but I got plenty from them when times were good. I said my piece at the end of the year so my friends would know where I've gone. Although it may appear I've left here, I haven't. I've just run out of energy by the time I finish doing my blog post or two for the day. I haven't been to tsu in a week, either. I hope no one thinks I'm one of those who have gone back to Bubblews. I feel for all of you who lost more money than I did.

CoralLevang wrote on May 12, 2015, 3:20 AM

Point, well-taken. Thank you for sharing this and making me think. I appreciate it more than you may realize.

inertia4 wrote on May 12, 2015, 1:47 PM

CoralLevang Nice comment. I agree. I think Arvind is looking for some kind of approval. I wonder if his parents were as wonderful as he makes them out to be. It does make you think. If we were able to speak freely there then there would be less rules. But I think the lack of communication is the main problem these days. I have never had a one on one conversation with Arvind, but it is sad that he lied to you. That will not make a person feel good.

WritingLover wrote on May 12, 2015, 4:46 PM

That does explain why they have been quite all this time. However I think they should focus on improving bubblews before trying to create something else.

seren3 wrote on May 13, 2015, 12:06 AM

I am not part of the "App" world yet though I'm sure it will happen...one day! I must admit I have not checked in with Bubblews for months! I do remember reading about Sweeble App and the hapless Sue Greenwood. It would probably be a horrendous project for her to take them on.

PriscillaKing wrote on May 19, 2015, 3:03 PM

The way this site's running today (on a *brand new flashy* computer, yet) explains part of the lack of activity, though it doesn't fully explain why posts by people I'm following aren't showing up on "Recent Activity."

Bubblews...robbed me, robbed a community ministry that really did help a homeless family, robbed lots of other people, and until they repent and make restitution, nothing good should happen for them.

KaraSkinner wrote on July 7, 2015, 9:16 PM

I hope Bubblews make real payments on their site. I've already spent several hours on it just because it's fun. And if they are trying to target the younger crowd with Sweeble, then they are failing because I have no interest in it and last time I checked I was part of the younger crowd.

CoralLevang wrote on July 7, 2015, 11:46 PM

I don't know how I missed this....
but I want to thank you for the comment.
We all have to figure out where it is best for us. I'm glad I found PP.

CoralLevang wrote on July 7, 2015, 11:47 PM

Now that Sweeble has launched, it seems that Tyler and Kevin are now the one's driving the bubblews ship. It's not a place that I want to set sail, though I still have a small dinghy docked there.

CoralLevang wrote on July 7, 2015, 11:48 PM

That's the problem. Some of us decide it's not worth it to fight. I'm glad that some took them to task through the Better Business Bureau.

CoralLevang wrote on July 7, 2015, 11:52 PM

KaraSkinner
That's been what they have seemed to care about all along ... the younger crowd. The older crowd, or the "old souls" as you may be, was what kept them alive, and still there. Always seemed to believe in them and their vision. Then on Dec 31/Jan 1, when they dropped the bomb and decided to not pay people what was owed, based on "new rules," so many people bailed. Some stuck around.
They lost any credibility they had with some. Others still stayed around just in case.

I hope, for your sake and those who are still there, you receive your payments. I would not count on it, but write wherever you write because it's your passion. Find the right fit, no matter where it is.