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Where Are We Taking Persona Paper?

This morning I looked at my notifications and I did not get inspired to read more than a few posts. I thought I was back at Bubblews for a minute. I realize I'm just as guilty of laziness as anyone else, but the rest of the world will not beat a path to our door to read what we are currently writing here, with a few exceptions.

I'll grant you that I'm in one of my cynical moods today and the sound of power machinery being operated by an invisible neighbor is making me grumpy. It's on days like this when I want to be back in my quieter Templeton home in the country where the neighbors don't operate power machinery every day of the week. I often wonder if they schedule it that way to make sure no day is quiet.

More and more it seems we are using Persona Paper as a personal diary, just as many of us used Bubblews. That hit me this week as I was removing more articles from that site. I only remove the articles I think are evergreen and interesting enough to be transferred and read somewhere else. It was a real eye-opener to see that I no longer care about most of those posts except as part of my personal history – my journal. I am copying only early articles and those I can't find copies of that I pasted from when submitting – just for my record.

Some of the articles are ephemeral and have lost their value because no one cares about the topics anymore. That would include articles about writing sites no longer with us and comments on the daily news. Others contain whatever I was thinking about that day or what was happening in my life. My cynical self now looks at these and asks, “Who would care about reading this unless they cared about me for some reason?” It hit me that 99.9% of people searching on Google do not care one whit about me or what I think. They want information about something that interests them, and they want it now. Chances are, most of them won't find it here.

More and more of our good writers who need to earn from their writing are very scarce here now. They check in and say hello and make comments. But they do their serious writing elsewhere. They come here to relax, like they do on Facebook and to stay in touch with other reading and writing friends. Why?

Here's my opinion. Writers write because they have something to say and would like someone else to hear (read) it, but they can choose from many places to say it. Here's part of my own reasoning for where to say it.

  • I'd like to earn something for my time.
  • I'd like to get a back link to something I wrote somewhere else
  • I want to communicate to a certain group of people – a target audience
  • I want to influence people in a certain direction
  • I want to develop my writing skills.
  • I want to create a potential audience for my own sites or blogs.

Those are the reasons I have on the top of my head this morning. So I have to ask myself where Persona Paper fits into this plan. I'm lucky if I earn .15 a day by posting an article and reading and commenting on other articles. More often it's less. I'm not allowed to link back to my work anywhere else. I can communicate with and maybe influence those who follow me here, and any writing helps keep my skills sharp. It's possible that what I write here might increase my blog audience, but the full potential for that isn’t here, since I am not allowed to post a link back to my blog.

So when I consider where to spend my writing time, I have to see which sites meet the most of these needs and also provide the most return on the social part of the site. Time is becoming more and more scarce. I have to spend it wisely. So I will be more fussy about what I take the time to read here and everywhere else. That makes clever titles really important in getting me to click.

Bubblews had the same policy of not allowing affiliate or back links to work on other sites. No one really cared as long as Bubblews was still paying well. When they stopped, there was no reason to stay, except relationships. When the writers wanted to migrate, Persona Paper was about the only similar site around. Now Persona Paper has new competition. The competition allows back linking. Some even allow limited affiliate links. In return, they have higher standards for the writing. I do not know yet what sort of traffic they generate or what sort of income.

MaeLou & elitecodex I would suggest that to stop the migration or inactivity of writers from this site, you start allowing one back link or affilate link per article so that writers won't have to leave the site to include one. I would also suggest you quickly implement the two-tier system to separate the bloggers from the content writers. Maybe you could only allow the back or affiliate link on the content side of things with higher word counts and more informational subject matter. Let's face it. Why should we create a great review if we can't profit from someone deciding to go buy the product? Until these changes are made, many of us will write those reviews or articles that lead to natural backlinks elsewhere, and continue to journal or write mostly easy pieces that don't involve research here.

Meanwhile, unless we want this site to go the way of Bubblews, maybe we should work harder at writing articles that will attract readers from outside the site. Try to think "evergreen" at least for one of every three posts. And ask yourself if you'd want to read what you write if it were written by someone else. Try to vary the subjects of your articles to catch more readers. As Kasman can testify, not everyone loves cats, even though they will read a really clever cat blog if they are in the mood. I know not everyone loves flowers and trees, though they are kind enough to read many of my articles about them.

The direction of Persona Paper is partly in our hands. We are the writers. We supply the content that will attract or not attract people. Do we want the site to grow or die? We should write accordingly. The administrators could encourage its content writers by allowing a back link so they won't write their articles elsewhere to get it. One back link to a writer’s blog or related article elsewhere will not make an article spammy. Many competing sites allow one promotional link per 200-300 words. In order to become competitive in retaining and attracting content writers, I would implore Persona Paper to change its policy and do the same.

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elitecodex wrote on March 28, 2015, 4:33 PM

You can link back to your blog so long as it is not a duplicate post and the post here isn't an advertisement for the link. In other words, don't use 500 characters to say "I wrote this awesome blog post about this topic, click here to read it". But if you include the link as a reference about your post, or to supplement it then we see nothing wrong with that.

We just don't want become a place where people are advertising their own blogs, which builds their value but diminishes ours.

OldRoadsOnceTraveled wrote on March 28, 2015, 5:05 PM

That's great. Sometimes when I am writing in depth about an evergreen topic, I like to tailor articles for different audiences on different sites. This is especially true for photo essays. Putting more than 2 or 3 photos here is a lot of work for the amount of reward.

BarbRad wrote on March 28, 2015, 5:14 PM

Thank you very much for that. It will make a big difference to many of us.

melody23 wrote on March 28, 2015, 5:26 PM

I used to write a decent amount of factual articles here, but recently its been more personal posts. I think once the site is split I will be more inclined to write more informative stuff again but I like doing the personal stuff much more than I thought I would. I really enjoy interacting with people here, but you are completely right, no one outwith my friends here is likely to be in any way interested in the stuff I have been posting recently.

Nar2Reviews wrote on March 28, 2015, 5:28 PM

Some good points but I don't want PPaper to become like Bubblews. And yet, so many writers on here in the last couple of days have moaned about a lack of earnings and a lack of views on their pieces. One writer in particular went as far to threatening to leave this site if they didn't get any more reads /pay per views. I assumed they had written something like 100 articles on here; not so, only 8!

I don't think there is a generic way of cheating any blog site system. It was easy on Bubblews because they took a rather lackadaisical view on words that had been laid down without actually reading them by writers who claimed that they weren't spamming the site. In reality, poor English and a lack of actual meaning took hold instead.

Then posts appeared with copied auto-translated stuff, which did my head in. No, I don't want Persona Paper to become like Bubblews. Words are words, whether people want to read them is up to them and the topics don't have to be overloaded with photos. We're not publishing photo books here.

CoralLevang wrote on March 28, 2015, 5:40 PM

Good to read this particular post. Also good to see elitecodex 's response.

Kasman wrote on March 28, 2015, 5:40 PM

Nar2Reviews - and yet Persona Paper aspires to be much more than a simple blogging site so why not publish photo books (or other collections of related articles) here? As it is the site isn't set up for this but I believe that if admin's plans to split the site into sections come to fruition then we will have a well-rounded site with a place for everyone and not just another Bubble Ooze clone. elitecodex and MaeLou have a lot on their plate dealing with this site as well as their other commitments to jobs and family but splitting the site sooner rather than later could have great benefits for us all.

Kasman wrote on March 28, 2015, 5:43 PM

When admin finally get around to splitting the site that situation may change. If we can post proper reviews or tutorials in the proper relevant sections then our page views should rise.

OldRoadsOnceTraveled wrote on March 28, 2015, 5:45 PM

I love Persona Paper as a social blogging site, but that's not ALL I want it to be. I think it has the potential to be pretty much whatever we want to make of it.

Of course, evergreen and SEO content is much harder and more time-consuming to produce than tossing out a quick personal post, and should be compensated as such. But that puts us in the catch-22 of not having enough revenue to pay premium writers for premium content because there isn't enough premium content to bring in enough revenue.

I do think having a dedicated section for content versus a blogging section will encourage more writers to put more effort toward evergreen material.

Featuring a short list of related posts somewhere on the page would also be wonderful. External viewers who do end up here via a search engine or social media link to one post might then be enticed to stick around if they noticed a link to something else they were interested in. An external reader doing a search for travel articles might stumble upon, for instance, a photo essay by Kasman of hillwalking in Scotland, then see a link to another article by AngelSharum about one of her hikes in the Southeastern US and click on it. But not knowing anything about either of them, that reader would otherwise just leave the site rather than wading through their archives looking for more in between their posts about other topics. They probably aren't going to the home page, either. It needs to be right in front of their face.

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Kasman wrote on March 28, 2015, 6:00 PM

Part of the problem is that Persona Paper isn't too well-known and doesn't have any real reputation for quality (yet) which is partly the reason why our membership numbers are growing only slowly (that and the pay rates). I have a lot invested in this site and I don't want it to become just another blogging site but it seems to be heading that way. We need more quality content but more than that we need exposure. Neither will come easy but both are necessary if Persona Paper isn't to simply disappear into the swamp of mediocrity.

BeadDoodler wrote on March 28, 2015, 6:20 PM

I have to say that the no links to our other sites doesn't make me want to write "quality" posts here. I'd like to link to my blog and other sites too, maybe not every post, but some of the ones on natural health and crafts could lead to many places where I have other more detailed articles.

WordChazer wrote on March 28, 2015, 6:34 PM

This is my Facebook, where I come to relax. I write a load of reviews too, as you have noticed, no doubt, so it's more than a blogging site for me. When the two streams are implemented, I will use both, depending on what I'm writing.

WordChazer wrote on March 28, 2015, 6:37 PM

Some people are like celebrities; they want £10k just for turning up somewhere. In the REAL WORLD money has to be EARNED by good honest labour. I hope these types realise that and either start contributing or leave forthwith. We don't need their like here, they contribute absolutely nothing and their 'work' is worth less.

Nar2Reviews wrote on March 28, 2015, 6:45 PM

Well said WordChazer regarding celebrity like demands.

Kasman the only problem with creating photo books in my mind is the demand, or perhaps lack of demand for such a concept.

I am not opposed to it, but I would like to see how it could work in the real world. I have plenty of collections I could collate into a photo book but I fear that photos would end up being used in Pinterest.

I know Pinterest has its many pros and cons, but one of its pros is that the photos remain on that site and do not normally have links applied to them that link outside, i/e (sorry if Im not making myself clear on this). If photos are to be collated in an informative post it has to benefit THIS site too. I don't know if it is worthwhile if MaeLou or elitecodex forms a permanent photo watermark script that would inform outsiders to come and see this site.

Kasman wrote on March 28, 2015, 7:08 PM

I am waiting for precisely that to happen! I have lots of stuff waiting in the wings with nowhere really suitable to place it. I am hanging on hoping Persona Paper will evolve into a site where I can put all my reviews. The alternative would be somewhere like Google Blogger - but definitely not HubPages!

Kasman wrote on March 28, 2015, 7:10 PM

Indeed, and I was using that simply as an example (if I really wanted to create a photobook I would do so on Flickr) but collections of anything would (I think) be a good idea.

Kasman wrote on March 28, 2015, 7:34 PM

It was originally spoken of some time ago and I believe MaeLou referred to it again recently (can't remember which post it was in) so I think it is still on the cards but I have no idea when it will happen. In my opinion it is the only way to go.

MariaMontgomery wrote on March 28, 2015, 7:41 PM

Hi Barb, I agree with you completely. I considered blogging here at PP, but so far, when I hover my cursor over the words "blogging" and "reviews" at the top of the screen, it says "coming soon". So it's not really set up as a blogging site, as some seem to believe. I'm really glad to learn from elitecodex below that we can link back to our blogs (mine are on WordPress). I have linked to some of my articles without knowing that we shouldn't do that. I hope this site can continue to grow and to attract more serious writers. Thanks for a thoughtful article.

bestwriter wrote on March 28, 2015, 9:06 PM

For me attracting outside viewers to my post will have no effect as those views are not counted here. I am from India. I would rather that the Persona community gets attracted to my blog. I would therefore have to write an effective post and include a link to my blog. Having said that I wonder how many here would want to click on that link or even want to read my blog. .

Hollyhocks100 wrote on March 29, 2015, 4:29 AM

I think it´s nice to have a site like this to take a break from the serious writing gigs, and just write about what you feel like. Evergreen content, though nice to see from time to time isn´t really what sites like PP and Bubblews are all about. Only my opinion, but I do still feel social media sites with pay have a place too.

jiangliu1949 wrote on March 29, 2015, 5:11 AM

A post that carries weight ! although I have no idea what back link is all about ,but I can tell you mean well and all you said is for this site's good .

Madcanman wrote on March 29, 2015, 6:52 AM

Well, I just finished posting another very personal write-up and found this. Now I wish I hadn't posted that last one, or any of the more personal ones. If I remember correctly (a real stretch as the years pile up) someone commented about boring how-to posts or strictly informational stuff, so I've kind of veered away from that. Now I'm wondering. I've been in a sort of limbo writing here anyway, and this article makes me think even more. I've been quite distracted lately anyway, between my job and now this family shit, so now there's one more thing up in the air.

inertia4 wrote on March 29, 2015, 9:20 AM

BarbRad I understand what you're writing here. But unlike actual writing sites where they are more like assignments, this is different. At least for me it is. And I do believe that when they split the site there will be two legs to Persona Paper. As it should be. Also what competition does Persona Paper have anyway? Bubblews? Possibly on basic posts. But I have seen nothing but junk sites popping up and going under. I am no writer, never claimed to be. I do enjoy this style format like Bubbelws as well. I don't have a personal blog, although I have thought about writing one. I don't feel I have the oomph to make a go of one. As for serious writing, I stay away from those, what I call, high and mighty sites. And if I were a professional writer I wouldn't be online much at all. I think sites like this offer the middle of the road for the people who enjoy writing about their lives and whatever topics they feel to write about. The more serious writers, as you said, will seek out totally different sites. But, Persona Paper has major potential to be both for everyone. That is why I like it here. I know I will never make it as a real write and that's okay. But this site just needs to be publicized. The name needs to get out there and a good explanation of what Persona Paper is all about. How it does cater to the professional as well as the regular joe.

Colibry21 wrote on March 29, 2015, 11:26 AM

I do hope that we can make this site work. Sometimes, though I just don't have a lot to contribute, or to say. Some days, I have more to say than others. I'm sure I'm not the only one, who sometimes doesn't have much to write about.

BarbRad wrote on March 29, 2015, 2:29 PM

I think that will make a big difference -- if it happens soon enough. But we also need to see the spacing errors addressed so that it doesn't appear our writers don't know how to space.

BarbRad wrote on March 29, 2015, 2:33 PM

I see no need for photo books, etc. I prefer a well functioning site and better writing. Who would buy a book of what we have now? Better to implement the two tiers for different types of writing for the site.

BarbRad wrote on March 29, 2015, 2:36 PM

No one wants this site to become like Bubblews. That's why I wrote this. Too many from Bubblews are continuing to write what they did there here. I wanted to challenge us to do better -- put forth a bit more effort. But most people won't put forth that effort for almost no return.

BarbRad wrote on March 29, 2015, 2:40 PM

I must not be following the people you are talking about. Those who read our work are important, whether they write well or not. Some may not write because they are reading first to see what is considered acceptable. They may be shy about writing if they think they don't measure up. If they comment, that is also a contribution. The only real freeloaders are those with their ads turned off.

melody23 wrote on March 29, 2015, 3:08 PM

Yeah those really need fixed, it makes our stuff look poor quality. I have already mentioned it to elitecodex in an email but I will tag him here as well

BarbRad wrote on March 29, 2015, 3:19 PM

Thanks, Coral. You are one whose posts I try not to miss.

BarbRad wrote on March 29, 2015, 3:55 PM

Good points, all. I love the related links idea.

BarbRad wrote on March 29, 2015, 3:57 PM

This is another Catch-22. We would only want to give more exposure to quality articles that outsiders would enjoy reading. When we find one here, we ought to be promoting it on social media to made it easy for others to find.

BarbRad wrote on March 29, 2015, 4:04 PM

i hear you. But there is a fine line between linking to other sites and directing people off this site to go somewhere else. I understand it's very good to have links to other posts on the same site, whether they are yours or not. I would still like to see one promotional link allowed per post -- even if it's a referral or affiliate link to a reputable site. One link to a blog is a good step in the right direction, but letting that link go to a related post I made on HubPages or another content site would also be nice. When I can, I link from those sites back to here. Seems it ought to be able to work both ways.

Kasman wrote on March 29, 2015, 4:04 PM

And that is the crux of the matter. If you pay low rates you get low achievement. Perhaps there is a case for a multi-tier payment scheme - one rate for this and another rate for that. It could be based on page views.

BarbRad wrote on March 29, 2015, 4:09 PM

I think balance is needed. I'm interested in reading a lot of the non-evergreen articles written by people I want to keep up with because I like their style or want to know how they are doing. They affect me as snail mail letters written by friends do. They aren't all great literature but they are personal communication as opposed to impersonal junk mail and advertisements or even magazines I subscribe to. There is certainly a place for them. But they will only attract internal traffic, and that traffic won't do much for our advertising revenue because most of us don't have a lot of spending money or we might not be here to begin with.

BarbRad wrote on March 29, 2015, 4:13 PM

I have two other networking sites where I can earn, not counting Facebook, so I don't use this for that as much. But I do come here to relax, just the same, with online friends I don't see or who aren't easy to find on other sites. i would also use both streams if they are implemented.

valmnz wrote on March 29, 2015, 4:16 PM

I don't really call what I do here real writing. It's a little fun diversion, a warm up to the more serious writing I do in my day. I come here instead of watching TV. on the other hand, I'd hate to see this turn into one of those sites where people create content by simply rehashing information that can be commonly accessed. I've yet to find the perfect site. When Knoji was still Factoids that went well for good content.

MaeLou wrote on March 29, 2015, 5:49 PM

We ARE still working on the blogger/informative split. It's going to be a completely different section of the site. It is not a replica of what you see here. It's a different look and feel to it altogether. I think some people fail to realize that we are TWO people trying to get this site together. ONE is a programmer, the other is NOT. That programmer, has a full time programming job. Then, everyone complains about every little detail and it takes away from the programming of Persona Blogger, and the attention is put towards the complaints. We can't do it all at one single time. When elitecodex has time to program for Persona Paper, he IS working on the blogger section. It's basically another site being built from the ground up. It's not as simple as a copy and paste what we already have and just change a few things around.

As far as spacing goes. We know it is an issue. We've replicated it but have not been able to figure out WHY it is doing that. Programming isn't an easy task, and there could be 101 different reasons as to why something is not working the way it should, it's just a matter of trial and error to fully find out which one that is.

As far as backlinking... we've always allowed that. As long as it isn't a referral or affiliate link, there's never been an issue backlinking to other places.

MelissaE wrote on March 29, 2015, 7:32 PM

Thank you. You put quite a bit of thought into this, and it shows. I agree to a certain extent. I will address my argument in a longer post.

AngelSharum wrote on March 29, 2015, 8:15 PM

Well, I don't do informative articles at all anymore. I share my photos and about my health mostly. I guess what I do here is blogging. If people quit reading what I write or start telling me it isn't good enough, I guess I'll just quit, but I won't be doing informative articles. I used to do that and I didn't like it at all. Of course, I don't write enough for WHAT I write to matter much anyway.

OldRoadsOnceTraveled wrote on March 30, 2015, 11:58 AM

Wish I could claim I thought it up. Yahoo Voices put a list below each article, and of course on Squidoo you could add your choice.

OldRoadsOnceTraveled wrote on March 30, 2015, 12:18 PM

I think a mix is very good. Just because a non-member might not want to know what's going on in your life, we still do! It's important to write what interests you. Passion is contagious. Different members are going to write differing interests. As long as the site as a whole has a good mixture and people can find what they want to read, it's fine if one member writes more personal stuff and another writes more evergreen.

OldRoadsOnceTraveled wrote on March 30, 2015, 12:26 PM

Most of your hiking photo posts have actually been very informative travel articles. I think they're just the perfect blend of informative and personal, and very evergreen. If I'm looking for information on X place I want to visit, I want to know what I will experience there. If I wanted to know the corporate slant, I could get that from the location's website.

CalmGemini wrote on March 30, 2015, 12:27 PM

Hello, BarbRad , I have read your post. While I know that you do not want this site to be like Bubblews , I do not agree with some points you have made.Nothing personal.You know I do enjoy your posts.So I have posted my thoughts as an article.

BarbRad wrote on March 30, 2015, 5:06 PM

It remains unclear to me what those headings actually would mean. I would probably label them ephemeral and evergreen or terms that would convey to most people that one category, probably blogging, is more journal like, and the other is on subjects of lasting interest or current trends that could be categorized for easy browsing by interest. I'd be happy to help pick out subject categories.

MariaMontgomery wrote on March 30, 2015, 5:53 PM

If you are looking for a social media site that pays, check out Tsu at (Not .com, .co). I think you will like it.

AudreyHowitt wrote on March 30, 2015, 7:08 PM

Very interesting Barbara! I think of this site as a "blogging" platform--and I do put my more serious writing elsewhere--I write quite a bit of poetry and have tried to be careful about where I place it--I would like to see this site evolve into more of a content driven site though--

MarshaMusselman wrote on March 30, 2015, 9:53 PM

Good points. I've been thinking of where to put my evergreen posts that I wrote first on bubblews. I'm still in the process of deleting them there and of course I'll need to revamp them some, but at one point it time I heard that we could migrate content there. But I'd only want to do that if it was profitable in the long term. Not sure yet where I'll put the majority of them.

BarbRad wrote on March 31, 2015, 1:27 AM

It appears a lot of our professionals have become inactive. That's what I'm worried about. I agree there should be room for both social bloggers and professional or serious writers, but until they are receiving more for their work, they will go where they get more. As for reviews of Persona Paper, I'm writing one right now on a site where I think someone misrepresented us. I hate it when someone joins a site, writes a couple of articles and reviews the site after two weeks as though he's an expert now. Especially when his facts are wrong. I think I need to set that record straight.

BarbRad wrote on March 31, 2015, 1:28 AM

If the views from outside are from the USA and other countries Google likes, I think it will make a difference. Unless I'm not understanding something.

BarbRad wrote on March 31, 2015, 1:32 AM

A back link is a link to another site where one has writing posted. The more people link to an article, the better Google seems to like it and the more likely Google is to send people there. So in other articles I write, I link to articles I've written here. Some of us would also like to link from here to a hub or blog post we'd like people to visit if its related to what we write here.

BarbRad wrote on March 31, 2015, 1:37 AM

Yes. OldRoadsOnceTraveled said it well. There's room for both personal and evergreen. It's just that currently we have much more personal than evergreen, or so it seems to me. And evergreen doesn't have to be impersonal. Humor is quite evergreen, for example, in a funny story about something that happened in one's childhood.

bestwriter wrote on March 31, 2015, 1:43 AM

Persona does not count views that I might get from non-members.

BarbRad wrote on March 31, 2015, 1:49 AM

Do you keep notes on the little things that happen as they happen so you can remember them when you have time to write? Do you have photos to remind you of things you may have forgotten? My photos provide a lot of inspiration to me.

BarbRad wrote on March 31, 2015, 1:52 AM

I've never heard of Knoji or Factoids. I think what people like to read is original, fresh writing that's fun to read. At least that's what I like.

jiangliu1949 wrote on March 31, 2015, 3:45 AM

Thank you for clearing it up!I have never known it before .I don't think it does this site any harm ,on the contrary ,it may help build clickstream .

Hollyhocks100 wrote on March 31, 2015, 4:31 AM

You could try

Hollyhocks100 wrote on March 31, 2015, 4:32 AM

Thanks maria but I can only really keep up with one site at a time and I like it here. emoticon :smile:

MarshaMusselman wrote on March 31, 2015, 7:43 AM

I've thought of that too, Holly. I do have an account there and I make a small bit of money whether I spend time there or not. Do you think that's a better option than putting them on here? I have several types of tutorials. Mostly on how to use programs on the web.

OldRoadsOnceTraveled wrote on March 31, 2015, 12:06 PM

I think it would depend on their potential for affiliate income. If its suitable for tying specific products to, then obviously HubPages would be more appropriate. If not, Persona Paper might be better.

Feisty56 wrote on March 31, 2015, 4:04 PM

As both readers and writers, we have a wide variety of interests, perspectives and things to say. It's great that at Persona Paper there is a place for all of it, so everyone can contribute as they like and read what they wish. Like BarbRad has said here, I've been a bit disconcerted lately to note that the vast majority of posts I see are more of a personal nature than informative. I'd like to see a greater mix of the two so that PP -- and its writers -- see more external traffic to help drive advertising numbers.

I have no intention of discouraging anyone from writing about whatever s/he wishes, I just know for myself I am more comfortable writing about more general things.

BarbRad wrote on March 31, 2015, 7:38 PM

Thanks for clarifying the back linking issue. I thought it required special permission.

I wasn't writing this to complain about the way the site is run or the speed of the progress. I am only too aware that we can only get so much done in a day. This was written more to encourage us as writers to put a bit more thought into our posts if we aren't as concerned about quality and audience as we were at first. No site can be better than its content.

BarbRad wrote on March 31, 2015, 7:40 PM

I'll watch for it.

BarbRad wrote on March 31, 2015, 7:41 PM

I'll be happy to read it. At least this post gave some of you ideas for your own posts.

BarbRad wrote on March 31, 2015, 7:49 PM

Audrey, we are kind of an in between place. I like to put informational articles here that are shorter and less media intensive than hubs are supposed to be. And I also use it for social blogging. I don't think every post on the Internet needs to have ten photos, a video or two, a quiz or poll, and a map to be interesting. I think HubPages likes them media intensive because all that media might keep someone on the post longer.

BarbRad wrote on March 31, 2015, 7:54 PM

I think most of us find it more comfortable to write what we know without a lot of research to support it. I know what I do, and might even remember it tomorrow if I write about it here or elsewhere. Most of us know more about ourselves than anything or anyone else. I just don't think most people Google us, LOL. They might, however, Google a place we are writing about or an animal or medical condition they want to know more about of which we have first hand knowledge or photos.

inertia4 wrote on March 31, 2015, 8:10 PM

&BardRad I agree. I do think that in time more professional writers will seek out Persona Paper. They have to start somewhere. As for other sites, well I am waiting on Qkadoo. According to Lynette the site goes live tomorrow. And all existing members will get an email with a temporary password to get in. I feel that site will work. She does not seem like the type of woman that will be a fly by night. She seems to have a great plan and thought it out perfectly. I know what you mean about people joining a site and thinking they know it all after a few weeks. I never claim to be an expert on any site and that includes Bubblews. I feel I am always learning no matter what site i am on.

Nar2Reviews wrote on March 31, 2015, 10:02 PM

It is good to come back and read what others are now saying after I and others beforehand left original comments.

Whilst there are some who may feel that they are fed up reading personal posts, it's the same with other informative posts that can get a bit boring after a while. That's the beauty of blog posting sites like PersonaPaper. There are no clear categories (well, that appear to me) where the highest views are being generated. Everything goes in leaps and bounds, like fashion and trends. It is just on the Internet, the feeling that fresh news is happening every millisecond rather than each hour giving a chance for the ink to dry...

One must allow for differentiation. If you are fed up reading personal posts, simply don't read that category, or any other category that you don't like reading much about. It is not as if Persona Paper has restrictive categories.

CalmGemini wrote on March 31, 2015, 11:13 PM

Yes,thank you for that.

AudreyHowitt wrote on April 1, 2015, 3:37 PM

I have never been one to chunk up my hubs with a bunch of media--I just want a place that is respected on which to post my poetry

msiduri wrote on April 3, 2015, 9:54 AM

I've read your thoughtful article and many of the thoughtful articles below. What I've been doing is a little bit of both blogging and evergreen stuff, mostly reviews of articles and shorts stories. I write a journal post first thing in the morning. This I try to make a little more than a discussion of my cup of coffee, but a writing plan for the day that I may or may not accomplish as the day progresses. Sometimes stuff happens. In my reviews, I'm do a little research to find the background of the author or the story. Often, some interesting things turn up. I do not give away the ending of the story, but try to present enough information to the reader so he or she can decide whether the story/article is worth reading. It's part of my evil plot to try to provide some SEO worthy aspects. So far, I've managed not to become fabulously wealthy. But I think there is room for people to write whatever they want. What I would like to see, though, is everyone learning and improving. Just my humble opinion. I sure don't want to see Bubblews reborn.

allen0187 wrote on April 3, 2015, 9:08 PM

This is a very good read BarbRad . Plus, the views raised in the comments are valid as well.

I think once the site sets up its 'reviews' and 'blogging' sections, we will see more of each type of post and the site can take the direction it wants to take. Surely, the site will welcome both personal and informational posts and then it will be up to the writers what sort of posts they will write and it will be up to the readers what they will read.

BarbRad wrote on April 4, 2015, 3:13 AM

I agree there is a place for everything. Everyone has different reading tastes. There are some categories I never read. There are some people I always read unless they wander into those categories. I will read funny pieces. For me style means a lot. If it is dull, I stop reading and move on unless I'm desperate for the information it has promised to provide.

BarbRad wrote on April 4, 2015, 3:26 AM

Thank you for such a thoughtful comment. It sounds like you have a balanced plan with variety. I think people just don't want to read the same subject over and over if it's one that doesn't interest them. If someone can almost predict what the subject will be just because of who's writing it, then that balance is missing. Example (purely hypothetical): Someone gets a new baby and that is all they ever write about. Yes, we are interested in the families of others, but we don't need to know about each day's activities -- especially if they are repeating routines. First words, teeth, steps, etc. are OK. What you're learning about parenting is wonderful. Responses to new experiences (mirror, for example) will be entertaining. But we don't need to know every diaper change or new attempt to make a new word. I think readers like variety and surprises. We want people to be thinking "I wonder what ____________ will say today?" instead of "Will she talk about something besides the baby today?"

BarbRad wrote on April 4, 2015, 3:28 AM

I think readers and writers are already making those decisions. Right now they re taking information stuff where it might bring a greater return for the time they spent. And, maybe not. It's hard to tell unless you've written fifty articles on a site how it may do for you.

allen0187 wrote on April 4, 2015, 4:45 AM

Perhaps, if MaeLou or elitecodex can give us statistics regarding the highest viewed posts, we can take it from there. Let's say top 30 most viewed posts since the site started. I remember at the onset any posts that talked about the 'b' site garnered an above average number of views although, surely, that has changed already.

I can look at my own posts and see which got the most views and stick to writing about the topics that generated such.

Popularity of posts based on statistics - that's one way I'll go about this matter. What do you think BarbRad ?

msiduri wrote on April 4, 2015, 9:12 AM

I tried to avoid that when I got married, but it was hard. Especially since a lot of what happened was funny. And wonderful.

grandma20121 wrote on May 24, 2015, 10:40 PM

Hmm this certainly is alot to think about, I will try to come up with more interesting things to write about as well.

BarbRad wrote on May 25, 2015, 1:57 AM

It seems we always have something else to think about. So much to write. So little time.

HappyLady wrote on June 30, 2015, 5:38 PM

I do think the blogging section being operational, and the reviewing one. There are days I want to write and days I want to write something more substantial. Allowing an affiliate and a back link in a post or even one a day would be really helpful to me. I am sure it will all get figured out for the best in the end.

HappyLady wrote on June 30, 2015, 5:40 PM

There is a way to overcome them. I am about to write a post on it.

BarbRad wrote on July 2, 2015, 5:06 AM

I agree. It's not very motivating to write a good product review and not be able to include your affiliate link. It seems if it motivates someone to buy the product, one ought to get the fruit of that.