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Excitement at Bubblews

I wasn't really planning to visit today, but while putting in a bit of time at CGP Gallery in a push to reach my first redemption, I noticed a more positive trend in posts about Bubblews. Apparently a lot of people are getting paid this week - and earlier than they expected.

I had to go across there for a little while to see what the die-hard Bubblews fans were saying and some of the comments I read really amazed me. I was particularly unimpressed by the people who said that they no longer read negative posts because they're too demotivating. I hope they still feel that way if (when?) Bubblews runs out of money again and cancels another batch of redemptions.

One commenter even suggested that people will start drifting back now. It would take a lot more than one batch of to convince me that Bubblews has suddenly become a site that can be trusted.


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Began1988 wrote on January 20, 2015, 7:47 PM

I got my last redemption from them - but it was still $20 less than I had actually earned. So I don't really think it's going to get any better.

Gina145 wrote on January 20, 2015, 7:51 PM

I haven't been able to redeem since November 11 and the few posts I wrote since December were earning so slowly that I doubt I'd ever be able to redeem again, even if I kept on writing there. This news certainly isn't going to change my plans for deleting most of my posts.

LadyTrouble wrote on January 20, 2015, 8:07 PM

I will never go back there. While I was paid, I wasn't paid the amount I had cashed for. If anything them paying even SOONER gives me leave to think that they are more in the crapper then we think. I think they are trying to grasp for favor so that they get their money makers back. Without members, the site makes nada, and can pay next to nada.

UmiNoor wrote on January 20, 2015, 8:26 PM

Once bitten, twice shy. Even if Bubblews starts to pay their members now, who's not to say that they will run out of money again? I think Bubblews is now grasping on straws.

Began1988 wrote on January 20, 2015, 8:27 PM

Yeah, I thought it was VERY crappy of them to withhold EVERYONE'S earnings for that time. It almost sounds illegal!

Soonerdad3 wrote on January 20, 2015, 8:56 PM

I will never trust them again, it does not matter that they finally paid my last redemption check (short $18) and I am now done with them forever.

wolfgirl569 wrote on January 20, 2015, 9:00 PM

I received my last one from them but lost one to them also. So I will not go back.

carolscash wrote on January 20, 2015, 9:10 PM

Earnings are slow and there was an explanation of why the earnings dropped. I am giving it a chance and I hope that I won't be disappointed. I have never had a redemption that I did not get.

LeaPea2417 wrote on January 20, 2015, 10:29 PM

I am hoping it gets better there and I am really hoping I get the full payment for my redemption when it comes up soon. I hope.

Squidwhisperer wrote on January 21, 2015, 12:11 AM

The most puzzling thing about the whole Fizzhead thing is that so many apologists remain. It does provide an illustration of old adages: A sucker is born every minute, hope springs eternal... but also carries the more unsettling hints of the early stages of a cult. I guess if someone hasn't had their comment or post or account deleted - without explanation - they still won't get it. These guys are scoundrels.

Pris2015 wrote on January 21, 2015, 1:39 AM

I think i received my last redemption from bubblews since i cannot make any more money there anymore.Too slow i think it will take more than a year to make 50 dollars

arthurchappell wrote on January 21, 2015, 2:18 AM

I got a payment in December though the previous 2 mo

arthurchappell wrote on January 21, 2015, 2:23 AM

previous months were wiped out - one pending - money now trickling in very slowly

BarbRad wrote on January 21, 2015, 2:30 AM

I'm happy here and I think I'm spread thin enough for now. The question is how much are they collecting in their bank still now.

Gina145 wrote on January 21, 2015, 4:46 AM

I'm not convinced that it's legal, but I'm not sure there's much we can do about it except for complaining to the BBB. That's what I've done. Now I'll just have to wait and see whether it gets results.

Gina145 wrote on January 21, 2015, 4:51 AM

They are definitely trying to hang on to those people that are still there, but I doubt too many of those who left will go back. That would be sending out a message that it's okay to cheat us SOME of the time.

Gina145 wrote on January 21, 2015, 4:53 AM

In all likelihood the same thing will happen again. I made the mistake of going back once after receiving $50 when they owed me a lot more. I won't make the same mistake twice.

Gina145 wrote on January 21, 2015, 5:01 AM

It that's all that you were ever short then you're one of the lucky ones. Most of us have been treat a lot worse - especially international users like me.

Gina145 wrote on January 21, 2015, 5:04 AM

I've lost several over the two years I was a member. I stopped posting for months in 2013, but a payment of $50 at the beginning of 2014 fooled me into thinking that things had changed there. Until my August redemption went missing I thought they really had, but clearly I was wrong. So why would things change now?

Gina145 wrote on January 21, 2015, 5:07 AM

You've been extremely lucky. Even if I trusted them, which I don't, earnings have dropped so badly for me that I would need to write hundreds, if not thousands, of posts to earn $50. It's just not worth my time when I can do better on PP.

Gina145 wrote on January 21, 2015, 5:11 AM

I'm not hopeful. I've been cheated too often. I wish you luck with your redemption though.

Soonerdad3 wrote on January 21, 2015, 5:16 AM

I have read many posts and comments from people who lost hundreds of dollars when they announced the restructuring.

Gina145 wrote on January 21, 2015, 5:18 AM

I can almost understand people staying when their English is so bad that the decent sites wouldn't have them, but what amazes me is that there are some people staying on who I really thought were sensible enough to know better.

Gina145 wrote on January 21, 2015, 5:21 AM

I've lost over two hundred - if the BBB doesn't succeed in getting them to pay me. I'm still better off than many, and I know that there are people who need that money for their daily living expenses.

Gina145 wrote on January 21, 2015, 5:22 AM

I know just what you mean about too slow. I think those of us who live in Africa have been hit worse than most. Unfortunately I didn't receive all my redemptions either.

Gina145 wrote on January 21, 2015, 5:23 AM

I had two wiped out, but I'm not accepting that without a fight. Let's see whether the BBB can make them pay.

Gina145 wrote on January 21, 2015, 5:27 AM

BarbRad I doubt I'm spread as thin as you are, but I'm not finding it easy to cope with everything. CPG pays better but I don't particularly enjoy the site and I'm not sure how long I'll stick around there. This one may not pay as well but it's much more fun.

Some claim to be making a bit of money at Bubblews. My bank goes up a cent every few days despite my lack of activity, so Bubblews is obviously still earning something from my posts. That's why I'm deleting them.

Squidwhisperer wrote on January 21, 2015, 6:58 AM

Yeah - I was there 10 months and had a pretty good sense of the "legitimacy" of posters with whom I was interacting. So when you drop in and find established contacts abruptly no longer "existing," something's screwy. But, as I wrote somewhere else here, deletion is an odd thing. It's hard for people to see - in concrete terms - what is no longer there. Like the Stalinists removing people who had fallen out of favour from photos. You'd have to know the "disappeared" person was there in the first place in order to recognize their absence.

UK_Writer wrote on January 21, 2015, 7:08 AM

Those being paid early will be those who managed to redeem, so were close to redemption, before it all "died".... and they're being paid early as the staff have time to sit and twiddle their thumbs as there's not much to do now :)

Gina145 wrote on January 21, 2015, 7:12 AM

One can sometimes find who's been deleted when a post has answers to missing comments. I just found another missing connection there a little while ago when I wanted to link to her post about CGP for a forum post I was writing. I was quite surprised because she'd given every indication that she was staying.

It's not those who've been deleted that surprise me though, I'm far more concerned about the legitimate posters who have chosen to stay because they like Bubblews. I just don't feel that it's right to go on supporting a site that has cheated so many people, some of whom really need the money they worked so hard to earn.

Gina145 wrote on January 21, 2015, 7:15 AM

What you say makes sense, but under those circumstances one would expect people to be taking massive cuts to the amounts they redeem, yet I've seen claims that some people have been paid in full. It this Bubblews' way of choosing which users they want to stay there?

nbaquero wrote on January 21, 2015, 7:35 AM

Gina145 I agree it would take a lot more that a reduced payment to make people really trust that site again.

Gina145 wrote on January 21, 2015, 7:39 AM

nbaquero I'm not sure that anything less than a change of ownership would make me trust Bubblews again.

Squidwhisperer wrote on January 21, 2015, 9:43 AM

It's tricky. People are there for all sorts of reasons. But there sure is a big willingness to turn a blind eye to the behaviour of administration. I mean lots of people are quite vocal about unpaid redemptions. But I don't know if I've seen anyone on site making much noise about unwarranted account deletions. The assumption seems to always be that it was entirely the poster's fault. I got shoved off this last time for supposedly "inappropriate content." No idea what they specifically were referring to - besides some sarcasm toward and criticism of administration - but that sort of blanket term gives them lots of leeway to silence any challenge. Finally self-interest has a big impact. The fact is that, for most of us, 99% of our "friends" on the site are actually people who we'll never run into in the grocery store.

Gina145 wrote on January 21, 2015, 10:31 AM

Some people have certainly made a fuss about unwarranted account deletions. I've read of more than one person who has been unfairly deleted for alleged plagiarism, then had their account reinstated when they've proved that their posts were all their own work. But criticising admin once to often is an unforgivable sin. One of my "friends" received threats that she would have her account deleted if she persisted in sending emails asking for the money they owed her. She didn't give up, and they followed through with their threat.

I understand that some people want to stay there for social reasons, but they should really make a plan to meet their "friends" on another site, not help Bubblews to go on earning money at other people's expense.

FreyaYuki wrote on January 21, 2015, 1:22 PM

Agree. Some of the redemption posts I've encountered still say they had their payments slashed. Some only lost a few dollars while some lost a lot. While it's nice they got their payments, it doesn't erase what happened and it doesn't change the fact that many more people lost theirs.

FreyaYuki wrote on January 21, 2015, 1:24 PM

Same here. My bank is stuck at 44 and it's so depressing. Doesn't look like anyone can reach payout again anytime soon as I saw other posts of people saying that earnings there are really slow right now. Wish they'd consider lowering the payment threshold.

FreyaYuki wrote on January 21, 2015, 1:28 PM

Yeah, I think it's something like if you owe someone some money or if you promised to pay them or if someone works for you, you can't just say you won't pay them anymore, right? Hopefully, we can get some favorable results. By the way, have also heard suggestions of trying to file complaints with the IC3 and the FTC. Do you know anything about that? Trying to find more info to see if we can complain with these orgs too.

Gina145 wrote on January 21, 2015, 2:08 PM

I'll find out about those places if I need to, but I didn't even know there were other options.

From what others have said I think that Bubblews should be obliged to pay us unless they're bankrupt, in which case the site should close down. As that hasn't happened, hopefully they'll at least be forced to pay those who make the effort of complaining.

Gina145 wrote on January 21, 2015, 3:11 PM

Those people are only thinking about what's good for them. They obviously don't care about the other people who are being cheated or may be cheated in the future.

nbaquero wrote on January 21, 2015, 4:02 PM

Gina145 Probably a change of Management would do. If they step aside and let experienced people handle the operation with a common sense approach that site would be better off. But knowing them that isn't going to happen.

mrsmerlin wrote on January 21, 2015, 4:25 PM

I had foolishly allowed my account to build up over there so that I could claim it as a lump sum to arrive in the new year. Instead the whole lot was wiped as I had claimed it on 7th November - yet they did pay others who redeemed on the same day. I pop back there to keep up with some people, but most of them are here now anyway. I find myself getting madder and madder at how blatantly they are breaking laws and thinking that if they put something in the TOS it is automatically legal and we should all be scared.
They are happy and working hard using our money and I would never trust them not to do it again. So although I may pop in from time to time I am not expecting to earn anything from it - my bank is on $23 and has been since December - I was posting lots then as well. Ho hum what does not kill us makes us stronger

Gina145 wrote on January 21, 2015, 6:03 PM

I thought of saying a change of management, but as you say, it's not likely to happen. And if they can't repair the site's reputation, I'm not sure anybody would want to buy it either.

Gina145 wrote on January 21, 2015, 6:09 PM

Gosh, that was terrible timing.

I suppose that the TOS can be used to protect them from a lot of things, but I still don't understand how changes can be applied retroactively. If they've got money, they should pay their debts rather than spend it on upgrades to the site. And if they don't have money, I don't see how they can stay in business.

My bank is over $40, but the rates they're paying people in Africa now are so low that it would take hundreds of posts for me to stand any chance of reaching $50. I would be mad to even try to get there.

FreyaYuki wrote on January 23, 2015, 2:07 PM

emoticon :sad: So sorry to hear about this. This is beyond terrible. It's so disheartening to hear stories like this. Have heard of others who also lost a lot. Have you tried filing a complaint to the BBB? Others have also suggested the IC3 and the FTC though don't know much yet about the last 2. It's free to file with the BBB though and anyone can do it. About their TOS - as far as I know, they didn't announce the latest changes they made to it. But, even their latest TOs mentions they won't make any changes retroactive; wrote about that too.

Kenr61 wrote on January 23, 2015, 5:02 PM

Gina145 I agree with you. I invested too much time and effort writing for Bubblews and then watching the bottom fall out. For now, I am staying away from active writing for them, but I will keep my ears open.

Gina145 wrote on January 23, 2015, 5:38 PM

I'm watching the site to see what happens, but something really major would have to change before I'd be prepared to write there again. I'm busy deleting my posts when I can find the time to spare, but at the rate I'm going that could take weeks.

Kenr61 wrote on January 23, 2015, 6:07 PM

I do miss Bubblews. I made some really good 'pen-pal' friends...even did person al e-mails with some fol;ks. But I feel that the ship is sinking. Good Luck deleting posts. By the way, I was ..." thebig60 " on that site, what was your writer's name?

Gina145 wrote on January 23, 2015, 7:09 PM

My writer's name was the same as I'm using here.

I must admit I also miss Bubblews and still look to see if my favourite connections (those who are still there) have written anything of interest. However I don't feel it's right to support a site that has got away with cheating so many people, so I feel much happier making new friends here.

allen0187 wrote on January 23, 2015, 8:40 PM

Those are probably members of the bubble ooze cheer leading team!!! LOL! Agree with what you wrote that it would take more than one batch of payments to get people to go back writing in that site.

Gina145 wrote on January 24, 2015, 11:11 AM

Sadly it seems not all people feel that way. From what little I've seen, some people are definitely coming back and some fairly serious writers never left.

nbaquero wrote on January 28, 2015, 2:31 PM

That is what I said back when they had the site flooded with spammers, would any knowledgeable investor put their money on that site? I doubt it.

PS. Have not seen you here in a while gina145 hope you are doing fine.

Gina145 wrote on January 28, 2015, 7:32 PM

I'm fine. Just trying to use too many sites at the same time and not getting too far with most of them. And I'm trying to get my posts deleted from Bubblews but I've only made a small dent into a portfolio of over 860 posts because I've been rereading the comments I received in case there are any I want to save.

nbaquero wrote on January 29, 2015, 11:12 AM

Glad to know you are doing fine gina145
I deleted almost all my posts already, but I only a little more than 350, and besides I had made a list with all the URLs. So it wasn't that complicated. Good luck.

Gina145 wrote on January 29, 2015, 6:32 PM

I've also got copies of all my posts with the URLs saved in the word documents where I have the copies. What's slowing me down is rereading comments and asking Google to remove them from their search results. Oh, and the fact that there are other things that I'd much rather spend my time on :)

SoundNFury wrote on January 31, 2015, 5:19 PM

I agree, I received the last two payments that I had been waiting for, but it doesn't make me want to go back there.

Gina145 wrote on January 31, 2015, 5:25 PM

I'm glad you got them anyway. I've tried the BBB over my missing payments, but it doesn't look like I'm going to get them.

SoundNFury wrote on January 31, 2015, 5:28 PM

Sorry to hear that. I think I was one of the fortunate ones, but it's not right what they have done, and will probably continue to do.

Ruby3881 wrote on February 5, 2015, 11:11 AM

I've started posting there again, but only in an effort to reach the $50 redemption mark one last time. I figure they already stole $60 from me; I wasn't about to surrender $40 more due to inactivity.

Gina145 wrote on February 5, 2015, 5:23 PM

I might have done the same if I thought I stood any chance of getting there, but with the rates they're paying people from Africa, I can't afford the time it would take to get there. My only hope is that Arvind eventually gives in to the pressure from members who want the redemption rate dropped, and right now he says that's not going to happen.

AudreyHowitt wrote on February 9, 2015, 11:54 AM

Once , it is trust is lost, it is really difficult to recover!

Gina145 wrote on February 9, 2015, 1:09 PM

I agree, but strangely not everyone there seems to feel the same way.

shiela32 wrote on February 23, 2015, 8:54 PM

When I tried to sign up again - there is a 1 dollar credited on my bank. I'm not sure if I'll post there again but still observing what's happening around.

Gina145 wrote on February 24, 2015, 1:29 PM

I haven't closed my account. I'm still hoping I'll eventually be able to redeem the $40 in my bank if they lower the cashout value. However it's not worth my while posting because, as an international user, it's far too much work for too little pay.

shiela32 wrote on February 25, 2015, 2:28 AM

You are correct, earning here is better than Bubblews. Good luck.

Deema wrote on May 2, 2015, 4:40 PM

I gave up. I was just there to remove my posts now, but have decided to stay as I need 19 dollars to redeem. It just takes too long, I m annoyed.