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I have cast my vote

I have just returned from the polling station after casting my vote in the Scottish independence referendum. This is such an important day for Scotland and the rest of the UK even though its only us who have a vote, I could wake up tomorrow to find that soon I will no longer be British.

I am not afraid to tell you all that I am scared of what the future may hold for us, whatever way the vote goes. If we become an independent country will we be able to fund the things that are important to all of us? Will we be able to travel and work in other parts of the UK if we choose? If we don't become independent will we get the extra powers promised to us by Westminster?

I guess I am technically a civil servant as I work for a government body I suppose, although I doubt people think of the NHS as a government body I know I didn't before I started thinking about this post. How will we be affected? Will there be cuts across the civil services in order to pay for the costs associated with independence? Of course there will likely be cuts if we stay as well, everything is being cut just now, but will we be better or worse off?

What about my mother and other's like her who rely on state supported disability benefits? She has paid into the British welfare state, but not a Scottish one since there is currently no such thing. Since there is no pot of money to be split between us and the rest of the UK for paying welfare benefits what exactly happens to them?

I guess we are all in for a nervous wait overnight while the votes are counted, estimates are that we should know the result by 6am. I might stay up all night and watch as the results start coming in, I am kinda sad like that.

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suffolkjason wrote on September 18, 2014, 11:15 AM

I don't think I'll stay up all night- I probably would if I lived in Scotland. I'll set my alarm for 6.00 am (I bet the counts will overrun) to catch the result. The polls are so close it could go right down to the last declaration, I guess. The BBC reported that there can no recount for the whole result- just recounts by region. In theory that would mean either camp could win by just one vote and no recount would be allowed! Doesn't ring true to me. Have the BBC got that right?

melody23 wrote on September 18, 2014, 11:31 AM

I studied politics briefly a good number of years ago and seem to remember how this works in the case of a general election, I assume it would be the same for the referendum. If the vote is ridiculously close and a recount is ordered I think they only count the constituencies (in this case regions) that were really close, the results of the ones that weren't close stand so the recounted ones are added to the ones that weren't recounted and that gives the final tally. They also don't count any that don't go through the machine unless they have to, given that I have seen a lot of nonsense on facebook about taking a pen so your vote cant be changed, there could be a lot of votes that wont go through the machine as only the ones filled in with the special wax pencil provided can be read by it. I am actually going to go and read up on this now but I am sure that is how it works.

nbaquero wrote on September 18, 2014, 11:43 AM

Melody23 A big day for Scotland and the UK, the whole world is watching. Wishing the best decision is made today by the Scottish people.

suffolkjason wrote on September 18, 2014, 11:51 AM

My thinking was that if it's as close as they say, then it's not until the last region has declared that the result will be known. If the total result is very close, a small miscount in ANY region (regardless of the result in that region) might be significant (for example if YES win by 500 votes- a miscount of 100 votes in a few regions - whatever the result in those regions - might be enough to turn a YES vote into a NO vote). So, if I was a NO supporter and the YES campaign won by say less than 1,000 votes- I'd want a total recount of ALL regions.

LoudMan wrote on September 18, 2014, 11:53 AM

Nothing sad about paying attention to history-in-the-making. I think I'd be a nervous wreck, myself.

melody23 wrote on September 18, 2014, 11:59 AM

I am a little nervous, but I don't think the nerves will really kick in until the votes actually start coming in, voting closes at 10 pm and they pretty much start counting instantly. Smaller areas might post results before midnight.

melody23 wrote on September 18, 2014, 12:03 PM

I just pulled this from the Dundee Courier: : 'A counting officer or the CCO can request a local recount if he or she considers it appropriate. A recount would only be requested if there was some doubt over the process - for example if there were concerns over a mix-up with the ballot papers or that some had not been counted. The closeness of the vote is not justification to order a recount. The CCO cannot order a recount after the result has been declared' (

suffolkjason wrote on September 18, 2014, 12:09 PM

Thanks- so one vote could swing it and there's no recount. Scary!

melody23 wrote on September 18, 2014, 12:29 PM

I honestly thought that the defeated side (or sides in the case of a general election) could call a recount if it was really close but according to that article it doesn't matter how close it is now I am even more scared than I was to begin with because all the research polls suggest its going to be very very close like within maybe one or two percent.

Feisty56 wrote on September 18, 2014, 2:41 PM

I imagine the voter turnout will be high in this referendum vote, as it should be. In the U.S., people are so disgusted or apathetic that voter turnout is truly pathetic.

melody23 wrote on September 18, 2014, 2:55 PM

voter turn out in the UK is usually abysmal in 1997 less than 50% of people registered to vote did, less than half of the people who voted voted for the Labour Party who won the election. Even assuming that every single person over the age of 18 was registered to vote which is highly unlikely, that means that the winning party got into power with less than a quarter of the population actually voting for them.

For this referendum all the people who don't normally vote will no doubt turn up and these are the people I am scared of, the people with no information and no real political opinion who just want a Scottish passport. Apparently over 90% of people eligible (in this case including 16 and 17 year olds) have registered to vote, the highest in any previous election in history.

LoudMan wrote on September 18, 2014, 4:24 PM

Well, I'm seeing this topic being discussed all over different groups I'm in.

BarbRad wrote on September 18, 2014, 11:52 PM

Melody, I hope whatever the result is, it will do the most good for the most people.